or: Why any alkaline Trio after Maybe I’ll Catch Fire isn’t worth your time
So the story goes like this. Some dude told me about this awesome band called Alkaline Trio around late 1998/early 1999. I hated emo, and that guy said they were emo, so I hated them by default. (Note: they weren’t honestly, truly, fully emo . . . more pop punk with an emo flavor pack added.) I think I only heard about three seconds of one of their songs (“Cringe,” to be specific) until I caught them at a show on October 2, 1999, at the now-(locally)-legendary Asylum in Springfield, Illinois. (I remember the date because it was my friend Skip’s birthday, and lead singer/guitarist Matt Skiba worked “Happy Birthday Skippy” into one of the songs). So after that show, I was completely sold on them and they became one of my favorite bands. It was during the “woah”s in the Dan Adriano-fronted song “Message from Kathleen” that I knew I was a fan. A big fan.
I bought all of their releases; I couldn’t keep them out of my CD player; I made every attempt to see them at nearby shows; I had a band around that time and it can safely be said that the Trio was our biggest influence.
What made them so good was the honesty in their music. The lyrics, be they by Skiba or bassist/vocalist Dan Adriano, were deep but accessible, profound but simple. Dark themes were abundant in their songs, but, as I said, they had an honesty to them. The music had a punk rock grit to it, was poppy enough to go down easy, but wasn’t so over-the-top that it felt cheap. Their image was that of three guys who liked playing music together–it was almost as if they were as shocked as we were that it was so good, and they enjoyed it just as much. From the end of 1999 to early 2001, there was no band better in the Midwest than Alkaline Trio.

Pictured: the good ol' days
But all good things must come to an end. The legend, which I’ve had “confirmed” by people that knew the band, is as follows: around the time that Alkaline Trio was making the switch from Asian Man Records to Vagrant Records, drummer Glenn Porter’s girlfriend left him for Blake Schwarzenbach, lead singer of early emo pioneer band Jawbreaker, and then-emo band Jets to Brazil. Well, Porter was a little upset by this, so he crapped in a box and sent it to Blake in the mail. Word of this got back to the heads at Vagrant, and they told Skiba and Adriano that they wouldn’t have a band on their label with a member that would do something like that–so he was ousted and replaced by former Smoking Popes drummer Mike Felumlee. We fans were sad about that personnel change, but after seeing a few shows with Mike, we were pretty sure all would be okay.

A few months after Porter's replacement, circa early 2000, at The Side Door, St. Louis, Missouri (taken by me)
But they wouldn’t be. Their third EP, a 2-song vinyl release called Hell Yes weirded out a lot of fans with its b-side, “My Standard Break From Life,” which sounded more akin to being a Green Day radio hit. I was worried to say the least. Yet a few months later, in late 2000, Vagrant Records released the still-awesome Another Year on the Streets sampler, boasting two songs on it that would be on the new Trio album, “Bloodied Up” and “Crawl.” In short–they were freaking awesome.
All of my worries were cast aside and I got really excited about the new album, which would be called “From Here to Infirmary.”
Wait, what? What kind of name is that? A pun? It was like some lame attempt at being dark and clever at the same time, except in the way that some out-of-touch, 40-year-old rocker would do it.
And then . . . “Stupid Kid.”
It was a complete betrayal to everything we had understood Alkaline Trio to be up to that point. Where “Cringe” punched you in the gut with its raw energy, “Stupid Kid” asked you to dance around with jazz-hands. Where “Bleeder” cut like a knife with lines like, “Woke up to my daily headache and the realization that you are gone; oh my sweet darling happiness, you’ve been away from me all along,” “Stupid Kid” spread icing with lines like, “Remember when I said I love you? Well forget it, I take it back.”
And the album didn’t stop there. There was the baffling crap-piece “Private Eye” that, unless I’m missing some deeper meaning, is really just Skiba rambling on about some childhood fantasy. There was Dan’s odd one, “I’m Dying Tomorrow,” in which he asks, “Did I did I at least try to kiss the prettiest girl at the right time?” There was “Armageddon” that seemed like it was born out of high school hallway angst, “I wrote the words to this song on the back of a photograph behind your back; it goes a little something like this . . .” And what about the two songs “Bloodied Up” and “Crawl?” They altered them. They added in vocal effects and did different takes for the album version that softened them and polished them to that crisp, Good Charlotte-shine.
Something had happened. Not only did the music lose its edge, but the lyrics became artificial. There was no connection with the band anymore in the songs they were singing because they weren’t real about it. The new album felt like an act. A role.
At the time it was easy to make Mike Felumlee the scapegoat for the band changing, but I’ve since gotten over that. Felumlee’s alright by me on his own, or with other groups (especially The Smoking Popes). The truth that I didn’t want to admit at the time is (I think) Skiba and Adriano saw the opportunity to take their band to the next level, and they did it the way they know how. The way that pretty much any band anymore knows how: pick an image, run with it, and turn up the pop accessibility to your music. Since the Trio was already known for being dark with a poppy edge, they picked that as their image, but turned it around, so that they were poppy with a dark edge.
Not long after that, Mike left the group for some reason, and was replaced by the current drummer, Derek Grant. Grant was already established in the punk (and ska) scene of the mid and late 90′s, having played in groups like The Vandals and The Suicide Machines, so his joining of the group was a little like the cred Blink 182 got when Travis Barker joined. (And before Enema of the State, that was honest punk rock cred that Barker brought Blink).
At this point in my fandom, I felt pretty disconnected from them. I saw that a new album was coming out so I decided to get it in hopes that things would have swung the other way. The album would be called Good Mourning. Sigh. Again with the stupid pun. Can you see what I’m getting at here? They went from I Lied My Face Off and Maybe I’ll Catch Fire to From Here to Infirmary and Good Mourning. If that’s not trying to play a made up part, I don’t know what is.
Well I got the album, and it was actually pretty good. It wasn’t as . . . “fluffy” . . . as the previous album. But for all that was okay and good about it, the magic of the earlier releases was still gone. While a lot of the excessive pop had been removed, the slight return to the original feel of the group, just a little more polished, seemed artificial, now. And on top of it, the lyrics were just as bad as before–if not worse. “This Could Be Love,” the opening track, is really the best example of their catalog to that point of trying to be dark for dark’s sake:
Step one — slit my throat
Step two — play in my blood
Step three — cover me in dirty sheets and run laughing out of the house
Step four — stop off at Edgebrook Creek and rinse your crimson hands
You took me hostage and made your demands
I couldn’t meet them so you cut off my fingers, one by one
That’s sick! That’s accessible to sociopaths. What happened to the dark edge they had before? Here’s an excerpt from one of their songs from Goddamnit that perfectly illustrates what I’m talking about when I say “dark edge” and not “gross.”
You t0ld me that you want to die
I said I’ve been there myself more than a few times
And I go back every once in a while
You called me lucky; you called me luckyYou said tonight is a wonderful night to die
Asked how you could tell,
you told me to look at the sky,”Look at all those stars,
Look at how goddamn lonely the stars are . . .”It’s one or another
Between a rope and a bottle
I can tell you’re having trouble breathing‘Cause you’ll never be okay
You’ll always be in pain
You’ll always feel this way
‘Cause things they never work out right
The wrong way, the lonely way
You’ll always be in painYou told me that the daylight burns you
And that the sunlight was enough to kill you
I said, “Maybe you’re a vampire.”
You said that it’s quite possible, “I feel truly dead inside.”
Do you see what I’m saying and trying to contrast? They’re both dark, but “Trouble Breathing” has a sincerity to it. It feels real, like it was written out of an actual, painful conversation with a long-time friend. “This Could Be Love” sounds like he just got done watching a Saw movie, though it was written long before those movies came out. “Trouble Breathing” is clever and uses subtlety. “This Could Be Love” is artificial.
The long-term problem with Good Mourning, I found, was that it grew tiring after a while, and any enthusiasm for the Trio it restored in me fizzled out long before their next album, Crimson, was released.
Sigh. Crimson. I’ve still never made it through the whole album. I appreciate the drama and the power behind the opening track “Time to Waste,” but it’s an otherwise empty song. The actual first song I heard from the album is “Mercy Me.” An old friend played it for me, we listened to it, and we laughed hysterically before turning it off.
I used to long for broken bones
I used to long for a casket to call my own
I never had a problem facing fear
but I’m done, over and out my dear andOh mercy me
God bless catastrophe
There’s no way in hell
We’ll ever live to see through this so
Drive yourself insane tonight
It’s not that far away and I just
filled up your tank earlier today
Get it? They’re DARK! OOoooooo! Caskets! Insanity! Broken bones! Spooky!
That marked the end of my Alkaline Trio days, for sure. Several years later I picked up the B-side collection Remains so I could have some elusive comp-only songs like “Jaked on Green Beers” and “Queen of Pain,” but honestly I barely listen to any of it anymore. And what have I caught in my peripheral vision since then? . . .

. . . this . . .

. . . this . . .

. . . and this.
Those are Nikes, by the way.
I’ve written several things on the twisting and perversion of emo music from honest, talented post-punk into some watered-down, shopping mall, pseudo-goth trend. The Trio is riding that wave big time. In the older days, they did have hints of that dark imagery in their merchandise and album art. At the time it was something of a joke, because they didn’t sound remotely like a band that would use that kind of stuff for their look; there was a cheeky irony to it. Well it’s apparently no longer a joke. It’s clearly no longer intended to be irony. Now the attempt at cleverness has turned into the fashion sense of spoiled, middle-class teens and 20-somethings who think they’re dark and brooding when they paint their fingernails black and listen to catchy guitar hooks and poppy melodies with lyrics about feeling dark and brooding. And Alkaline Trio is the justification for the association.
So two albums have come out since Crimson. I’ve not heard anything on Agony & Irony nor the most recent This Addiction. I don’t care to. I’m moving on to other, better things. At least the album names have dramatically improved. But since we’re here, let’s take a moment to listen to a song from their newest album . . .
. . . hmm. It sounds put on, still. The intro and verse started to grab me, but that chorus ruined it, and the lyrics STILL sound generic. Also the kids in the video are awkward. . . . Well, I’m done. So long, guys; enjoy your success, and then don’t take it too hard when you end up the butt of every Hot Topic joke. You already are, actually, as you’ve clearly drifted into that inescapable prison of self-parody.
Oh, and nice eyeliner, Matt.
i love goddamnit….thats about it
I would suggest listening to their self-titled b-side collection from 2000, which had the EP’s Sundails, For Your Lungs Only, and I Lied My Face Off. Spectacular stuff, and I would argue that I Lied My Face Off‘s four songs are better than all of Goddamnit‘s. I also love Maybe I’ll Catch Fire but I get that some people don’t because it is considerably more mellow.
Aww, dya wanna tissue?
For someone who hates emo you don’t have cry an awful lot.
Well said.
“Trouble Breathing” is about a friend of Skiba who committed suicide, just to let you know.
And neither Skiba nor Dan kicked Glenn out of the band. Yeah, they were pissed he shit in a bag and put it on some dude’s doorstep, but Heather was (and I believe still does) working with band and they weren’t going to kick her out for breaking up with Glenn. So ultimately it came down to Glenn saying, either she goes or I go.
You give a very detailed reflection, it’s respectable. I’ve happened to be a Trio fan the past 10 years and there has been undoubtably a change in musical style. I just saw them in Oakland a few days ago and they had a killer setlist.
Thanks. I tried my hardest to really grasp in prose what it was that changed–it’s good to know it seemed to come across. And thanks for the insight on what happened with Glenn.
Speaking of what Trio songs are about, have you ever heard anyone speak with the utmost confidence that “F*ck You Aurora” is about a friend that died in a car crash, and won’t be told otherwise? I have. I try not to let it get under my skin . . . but it’s so hard for me to know people are wrong and to let it be.
Thanks for reading!
It made for a good read I’ll give you that but I completely disagree with your statements about them becoming safe and to a certain degree a somewhat mainstream stereotype.
Switch the radio on, tune in to a “Top 40″ chart, and listen away. The generic bullshit that comes out of Rhianna’s mouth is painful to listen to let alone analyse. Most music nowadays is about drinking or clubbing. So few artists express their desires, fears, emotions that there is so much wasted potential.
Trio’s lyrics are personal in a subtle way; and so what if they embrace a poppy satirical style – maybe they intended to for mock purposes?
The beauty behind their lyrics – even in recent albums – is that people can still relate to their words. Radio is a perfect example. We’ve all been heartbroken and loathed our ex such reason. We get angry, upset, mournful. We put music on in hope that something will scream out to us which is familiar to our suffering and help us through the rough times. How can you heal listening to a nobody sing about Fireflies?
As emo, conformist or even “tame” Trio may be today, they still reach out to people.
Thanks. H
Thanks for reading, Helen. Of course I disagree back. Naturally the “top 40″ crap is just that and has been for a very long time, but I find that irrelevant. Allow me to illustrate why using a guitar analogy . . .
If Gibson’s guitars declined in quality to the point that they were equivalent to a $200 Godin or bottom-of-the-line Squire, those of us who care would still have reason to complain even though they were still better quality than a $90 First Act you could buy at Wal Mart.
I hope that made sense. Or! Or! If the upcoming third Chris Nolan Batman movie turns out to match Batman Forever in quality, fans still have reason to be upset even though it still tops Batman & Robin.
I get that they still have fans and people still connect with them, but I see what I see and I even surprised myself when I wrote this by how well I was able to explain their decline as I observed it first-hand. So agree to disagree, but regardless thanks for being articulate and mature in your comment. It’s less than we can say for others here.
For someone that doesn’t like the Alkaline Trio anymore, you sure gave a shit enough to right a 3000 word cry baby fest.
It amuses me how you simultaneously lack spelling skills and the capacity to understand the point of expository writing, yet have the audacity to insult me. I’d say “thanks for reading” anyway, but I doubt you did.
This is everything I’ve thought about Alkaline Trio since around the release of Good Mourning,but have never been able to really put into words. I became a fan around 1999 as a junior in high school and they quickly became my favorite band. I thought From Here… had its moments, although there was no denying something seemed off with the record as a whole. They really lost me with Good Mourning and I haven’t been able to get through a full release since. The whole thing is just so cheesy and feels 100 percent calculated. It’s like every single song has to have the word “skeleton” in it.
I will say though that I caught them at a small bar show in Long Beach, CA a few months back and despite being surrounded by 21 year drunk bros yelling “Stupid Kid” in between every song, their setlist was actually really solid and I’d say 3/4 of it was pre-Good Mourning songs. It was the first time I’d seen them in almost 10 years and they still put on a great show. Also, they weren’t dressed in matching mortician suits, as they were the last time I saw them.
Thanks for this. I’ve tried to explain to a friend who discovered them through Good Mourning and she doesn’t really get it. They will always be one of my favorites, as they remind me more than any other music of being 17 and dumb, but they’ve turned into a parody of themselves.
One thing to mention is that before Good Mourning, they had that HWM split that showed some promise with the new drummer and 2 new originals that seemed better than everything off “From Here to Infirmary”. I wonder what happened?
I forgot about that split. Never listened too it too much and now I fear it’s too late for me to truly appreciate it. Thanks for reminding me about it!
I mostly agree. Well written. I think it was the infusion of Grant that truly killed them. They became a Simpsons parody of themselves with the Fright Night costumes and make up – all encouraged by Derek. And the kiss of death was when they began to take themselves deadly seriously (Yes, pun intended) – a very Grant trait. He considers himself an “Artiste” and is excruciatingly pretentious. Keep in mind, this was a guy who sported dread locks and then ditched that for mechanics duds n Buddy Holly frames only months before transforming the Trio into Cris Angels sideshow.
Two things though- Vagrant had nothing to do with Glenn being ousted. It happened before they were really involved. And while the song doesn’t have the depth of San Francisco or lyrics of F— You Aurora (that damn car), the video for “Stupid Kid” wins. The video still reps that tongue in cheek, Fireside, “yes sometimes we want you to wonder” playful vibe the band had before they became The Spookies.
Thanks, BD. Now that you mention it, all of that does fit well with Derek. Regarding the Vagrant thing, though, I’m going to have to respectfully disagree. I’ve heard the story from nearly half a dozen people, some of them who personally know Dan and Matt, and that’s the story I got–they were threatened to lose their pending deal with Vagrant.
I appreciate your intelligence, however, disagree. There were really good songs on GM…. If we never go inside, fatally your, and every thug needs a lady. I was used to every song on their cd being epic, and obviously…that trend ended around 2003. Agony & irony had a few good ones as well, and if you look real hard on This Addiction (the song itself makes me want to throw up) “I’m fine” was pretty sweet…. i seem to be partial to Dan’s tracks nowadays. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to write this.
Fan since 2002, fell in love with Goddamnit and From here to Infirmary. I also love LOVE love the split with HWM
Thanks for reading, and disagreeing maturely. My favorite song on Good Mourning was and still is “Emma.” It’s probably the only song from that album that I’d enjoy in any context.